Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

03/08/2007 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 101 GUARDIANSHIP AND CONSERVATORS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SB 97 ALASKA NATIVE ART IDENTIFICATION SEALS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= SB 93 PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS
Moved SB 93 Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                         March 8, 2007                                                                                          
                           1:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Johnny Ellis, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
Senator Con Bunde                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 93                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to licensed professional counselors; and                                                                       
relating to the unlicensed use of the title 'professional                                                                       
counselor.'"                                                                                                                    
     MOVED SB 93 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 97                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to identification  seals for  certain articles                                                               
created  or  crafted  in  the state  by  Alaska  Native  persons;                                                               
relating  to the  Alaska State  Council on  the Arts;  and making                                                               
certain identification seal violations unfair trade practices."                                                                 
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 101                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to private professional conservators and                                                                       
private and public guardians."                                                                                                  
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  93                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS                                                                                            
SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) DAVIS                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/22/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/22/07       (S)       L&C                                                                                                    
03/06/07       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/06/07       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/06/07       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  97                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALASKA NATIVE ART IDENTIFICATION SEALS                                                                             
SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) STEVENS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
02/26/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/26/07       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/08/07       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 101                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: GUARDIANSHIP AND CONSERVATORS                                                                                      
SPONSOR(S): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/28/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/28/07       (S)       L&C, STA, FIN                                                                                          
03/08/07       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RICK URION, Director                                                                                                            
Division of Corporations, Business, and Professional Licensing                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 93 and SB 101.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
TIM LAMKIN, Staff                                                                                                               
to Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                         
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented SB 97 on behalf of Senator                                                                      
Stevens, sponsor.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SAUNDERS MCNEILL, Director                                                                                                      
Community and Native Arts Program                                                                                               
Alaska State Council on the Arts                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 97.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHARLOTTE FOX, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska State Council on the Arts                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 97.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SVEN HAAKANSON, Executive Director                                                                                              
Alutiiq Museum                                                                                                                  
Chair of the Alaska Council on the Arts                                                                                         
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 97.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JOSH FINK, Director                                                                                                             
Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                                       
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 101.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHNNY ELLIS called the  Senate Labor and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 1:31:15 PM.  Senators Bunde, Davis                                                             
and Ellis were present at the call to order.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                 SB 93-PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELLIS announced SB 93 to be up for consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
RICK  URION, Director,  Division of  Corporations, Business,  and                                                               
Professional  Licensing,  Department  of  Commerce,  Community  &                                                               
Economic Development  (DCCED), said he  supports SB 93  and noted                                                               
that the testimony was complete during the last hearing.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BUNDE asked  about  the  zero fiscal  note,  and if  the                                                               
department  has  the resources  to  carry  out investigations  of                                                               
people who have falsely claimed to be professional counselors.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. URION  said claims of  fraudulent activity  are investigated,                                                               
and  the costs  get charged  to licensees  in the  next licensing                                                               
period. So it is self-supporting, he explained.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:33:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DAVIS  moved  SB  93   from  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations  and  attached  fiscal note(s).  There  being  no                                                               
objection, SB 93 moved from committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
         SB  97-ALASKA NATIVE ART IDENTIFICATION SEALS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:35:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS announced the consideration of SB 97.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
TIM LAMKIN, staff to Senator  Gary Stevens, said that the senator                                                               
introduced SB  97 on behalf  of the  Alaska State Council  on the                                                               
Arts.  Despite its  existence for  decades,  many Alaskans  don't                                                               
recognize the  emblem called the  silver hand. It is  a marketing                                                               
tool that  represents a piece of  art made by an  Alaskan Native.                                                               
Its origins  date back until at  least the 1930s when  demand for                                                               
Alaskan art was  increasing. There has been an  ongoing effort to                                                               
bring credibility to  the silver hand program in  honor of Native                                                               
Alaskan  artists.  The effort  has  been  thwarted by  fraud,  he                                                               
stated. SB  97 is a  housekeeping bill with no  motivation except                                                               
to modernize the statutes and  rejuvenate the program. He said he                                                               
is in the tourism business  and gets requests daily for authentic                                                               
Alaskan  art, so  he  believes  the bill  could  make  it a  more                                                               
recognized  emblem  to  the  public  and a  beacon  of  help  and                                                               
inspiration for artists in Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:37:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SAUNDERS MCNEILL,  Director, Community  and Native  Arts Program,                                                               
Alaska State  Council on the  Arts, said the silver  hand program                                                               
is the only  Native arts authentication program in  the state and                                                               
the nation.  The program serves  people from 143  communities and                                                               
includes all Alaska Native groups.  The proposed changes embodied                                                               
in SB 97 represent decades  of feedback offered and gathered from                                                               
a multitude of Native artists  and Alaska businesses. The changes                                                               
will  accomplish  the following:  retire  the  agent arm  of  the                                                               
permit program; remove reference to  blood quantum and replace it                                                               
with  federally-recognized   Alaska  Native  tribes;   add  civil                                                               
penalties for  the misuse of  the silver hand; link  the consumer                                                               
protection fair-trade statutes and  silver hand statutes; include                                                               
Alaska  Native   artists  producing  contemporary   work;  expand                                                               
allowable materials  for artists; expand the  definition section;                                                               
and define eligible  art mediums. The council is  in full support                                                               
of the bill, she concluded.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHARLOTTE FOX,  Executive Director,  Alaska State Council  on the                                                               
Arts, said the previous comments cover her testimony.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SVEN HAAKANSON,  Executive Director, Alutiiq Museum  and Chair of                                                               
the Alaska  Council on the  Arts, said he  was on the  task force                                                               
and has no further testimony.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS asked about page 2,  line 8. There is a significant                                                               
change from "Native arts" to "Alaska arts", she noted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMKIN  said the  new  language  shall read:  identification                                                               
seals for authentic Alaska Native art created or crafted.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:43:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SB 97 was held over.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
              SB 101-GUARDIANSHIP AND CONSERVATORS                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELLIS announced that the next order of business is SB 101.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:44:04 PM                                                                                                                    
JOSH  FINK, Director,  Office of  Public Advocacy,  Department of                                                               
Administration,  said SB  101 is  greatly  appreciated. The  bill                                                               
will  help  assure  that   private,  professional  guardians  are                                                               
adequately regulated,  and it will  encourage the  development of                                                               
this industry in Alaska as the  aging population and the need for                                                               
guardianship services grows.  This is primarily a  clean up bill,                                                               
he stated. In  2004 the legislature passed HB  280, which enacted                                                               
licensure  requirements for  private, professional  guardians and                                                               
conservators, but  prior to that  it was unregulated.  There were                                                               
notorious  cases in  Alaska where  guardians  spent their  wards'                                                               
estates down  to nothing  and engaged in  fraud. HB  280 intended                                                               
that guardians  get one license and  pay one fee to  the Division                                                               
of  Occupational Licensing,  but  the division  said it  requires                                                               
numerous  and  duplicative licenses.  That  is  an impediment  to                                                               
encouraging the  growth of this  industry, he  stated. Currently,                                                               
applicants  need a  license to  be a  guardian, another  to be  a                                                               
conservator, and a  third license is required for  the company or                                                               
corporation. The bill removes the  organizational license so that                                                               
it will be  required only for the individual.  Also, someone with                                                               
a guardianship license will not need a conservatorship license.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. FINK  said the bill  specifies the  type of crime  that would                                                               
preclude someone  from obtaining this  license. It will  focus on                                                               
crimes of dishonesty  within the past 10 years.  The other change                                                               
will be that public guardians will  be required to go through the                                                               
same  criminal  background check  and  obtain  the same  national                                                               
certification that  private guardians require. He  noted that the                                                               
director of  the Division of Occupational  Licensing has concerns                                                               
with the  language regarding insurance  and bonding  ability, but                                                               
that can be resolved, he stated.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:49:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS said the committee  was happy to introduce this bill,                                                               
and he heard there were some concerns with the language.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
RICK  URION, Director,  Division of  Corporations, Business,  and                                                               
Professional  Licensing,  Department  of  Commerce,  Community  &                                                               
Economic Development,  said the  bill is a  work in  progress. He                                                               
appreciates its  sponsorship, because it  is a high  priority for                                                               
some people. He said he is working on the issue of concern.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:50:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS  asked for it to  be ready on Tuesday,  and Mr. Urion                                                               
and Mr.  Fink said that  would be fine. He  asked if there  are a                                                               
lot of complaints around the state.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. FINK  said there are  occasional complaints, and  the probate                                                               
court has some concerns with  some private guardians. He believes                                                               
that the major bad players are  gone, but there are issues he has                                                               
heard about.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELLIS said  he has heard frequent  complaints from families                                                               
with  elderly people  whose wills  get changed  to benefit  a new                                                               
person that was recently befriended.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:52:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FINK said that only  professional guardians need the license.                                                               
Last year Representative Chenault  introduced a bill creating the                                                               
Office  of Elder  Fraud and  Abuse that  addresses those  issues.                                                               
When his office is aware of  exploitation of a senior, it can sue                                                               
on the senior's behalf for civil remedy.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ELLIS  asked  for information,  because  he  does  receive                                                               
complaints.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. FINK  said he has  a new  brochure with contact  numbers. The                                                               
office is  overwhelmed and has  backed off on seeking  new cases.                                                               
"We just don't have the staff," he stated.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB 101 was held over.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The Senate Labor and Commerce Committee adjourned at 1:55:05 PM.                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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